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		<title>Comment on Please explain what is &quot;rest of the software stack&quot;? by tbshmkr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbshmkr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 04:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;codecs, functions for the presentation of rich graphics on a small displays, secure shell support for encrypted TCP/IP traffic into the cloud,  component support for Web browsing  , SQL database functionality , and standard C library functionality .&quot;
 - http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313
 - http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;- http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313
- http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;codecs, functions for the presentation of rich graphics on a small displays, secure shell support for encrypted TCP/IP traffic into the cloud,  component support for Web browsing  , SQL database functionality , and standard C library functionality .&quot;<br />
 &#8211; <a href="http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313" rel="nofollow">http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313</a><br />
 &#8211; <a href="http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html</a><br /><b>References : </b><br />- <a href="http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313" rel="nofollow">http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Cloud-computing-with-the-Android-Linux-software-stack/43313</a><br />
- <a href="http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on how to make installable operating system from a source code of kernel and other drivers? by stanleys_2001</title>
		<link>http://www.kernelbench.org/kernel-software/how-to-make-installable-operating-system-from-a-source-code-of-kernel-and-other-drivers/comment-page-1#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>stanleys_2001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do it - the way all OS&#039;s do it.

Create a bootable cd or dvd - with a minimum OS - capable of copying the files into place... and creating a &quot;bootstrap&quot; on the hard drive.

If you&#039;re going to be doing HARDWARE INDEPENDENT drivers - you&#039;re going to have to come up with some process like microsoft&#039;s &quot;HAL.EXE&quot;  - where you interrogate the devices and supply the MINI-DRIVERS for them.

As a person who has actually participated in a team which built OS&#039;s - It&#039;s a LOT MORE COMPLICATED than it may seem on the surface.

However... break the task into SMALL BITES - and deal with them one by one... until they&#039;re all done.

Good luck.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do it &#8211; the way all OS&#8217;s do it.</p>
<p>Create a bootable cd or dvd &#8211; with a minimum OS &#8211; capable of copying the files into place&#8230; and creating a &quot;bootstrap&quot; on the hard drive.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to be doing HARDWARE INDEPENDENT drivers &#8211; you&#8217;re going to have to come up with some process like microsoft&#8217;s &quot;HAL.EXE&quot;  &#8211; where you interrogate the devices and supply the MINI-DRIVERS for them.</p>
<p>As a person who has actually participated in a team which built OS&#8217;s &#8211; It&#8217;s a LOT MORE COMPLICATED than it may seem on the surface.</p>
<p>However&#8230; break the task into SMALL BITES &#8211; and deal with them one by one&#8230; until they&#8217;re all done.</p>
<p>Good luck.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on On Kapersky Internet Security  software&#8230; HELP (KERNEL MODE MEMORY PATCH)? by Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.kernelbench.org/kernel-software/on-kapersky-internet-security-software-help-kernel-mode-memory-patch/comment-page-1#comment-3889</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the application installation you can select the protection mode. Two modes are available
which are Automatic and interactive.... did you choose interactive as most choose automatic which
means KIS deal with everything in the recommended manner.

This can be changed if required....which lets KIS decide what to do when an event happens.

http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/tech?qid=208280386

I have started with the above as in the link below it says .......If the interactive mode is enabled in the Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 settings and in the Proactive Defense component settings the Prompt for action option is selected (the option is available only in versions from 9.0.0.736), then in some cases the Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 dialog window that will inform you about suspicious activity may appear. The process will be detected as Process (PID: 0): kernel mode memory patch.............and it goes on to say the following......

Keyloggers may send your personal information (logins, passwords, credit card numbers) you enter using your keyboard to a cyber criminal. HOWEVER, similar actions can be performed not only by malicious programs, but also by some other not malicious applications installed on your computer. Very often these actions are performed by means of hotkeys to access some functions of an application installed on your computer.

The process kernel mode memory patch (PID: 0) is not malicious. You can add this process to the exclusions list by clicking Add to exclusions and How to do that can be seen in the link below.

This appears nothing to worry about ....Just KIS being Pedantic.

What you find under detected threats is not as important as what is under ACTIVE THREATS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/proactive?qid=208281028

Here is some more about it.
http://boardreader.com/thread/Detected_PDM_Keylogger_Driver_file_kerne_7thzX2nva.html

And from the KIS forum.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=123812</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the application installation you can select the protection mode. Two modes are available<br />
which are Automatic and interactive&#8230;. did you choose interactive as most choose automatic which<br />
means KIS deal with everything in the recommended manner.</p>
<p>This can be changed if required&#8230;.which lets KIS decide what to do when an event happens.</p>
<p><a href="http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/tech?qid=208280386" rel="nofollow">http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/tech?qid=208280386</a></p>
<p>I have started with the above as in the link below it says &#8230;&#8230;.If the interactive mode is enabled in the Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 settings and in the Proactive Defense component settings the Prompt for action option is selected (the option is available only in versions from 9.0.0.736), then in some cases the Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 dialog window that will inform you about suspicious activity may appear. The process will be detected as Process (PID: 0): kernel mode memory patch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and it goes on to say the following&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Keyloggers may send your personal information (logins, passwords, credit card numbers) you enter using your keyboard to a cyber criminal. HOWEVER, similar actions can be performed not only by malicious programs, but also by some other not malicious applications installed on your computer. Very often these actions are performed by means of hotkeys to access some functions of an application installed on your computer.</p>
<p>The process kernel mode memory patch (PID: 0) is not malicious. You can add this process to the exclusions list by clicking Add to exclusions and How to do that can be seen in the link below.</p>
<p>This appears nothing to worry about &#8230;.Just KIS being Pedantic.</p>
<p>What you find under detected threats is not as important as what is under ACTIVE THREATS.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/proactive?qid=208281028" rel="nofollow">http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/proactive?qid=208281028</a></p>
<p>Here is some more about it.<br />
<a href="http://boardreader.com/thread/Detected_PDM_Keylogger_Driver_file_kerne_7thzX2nva.html" rel="nofollow">http://boardreader.com/thread/Detected_PDM_Keylogger_Driver_file_kerne_7thzX2nva.html</a></p>
<p>And from the KIS forum.<br />
<a href="http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=123812" rel="nofollow">http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=123812</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do the Linux kernel developers use such naughty language? by inclusive_disjunction</title>
		<link>http://www.kernelbench.org/kernel-developer/why-do-the-linux-kernel-developers-use-such-naughty-language/comment-page-1#comment-3884</link>
		<dc:creator>inclusive_disjunction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Most programmers swear. They complain about hardware, other software, or their fellow developers. This serves as a distraction so that other will be less likely to notice the mistakes they themselves make. It&#039;s not exclusive to the Linux kernel, either:

http://codeulate.com/2007/12/fcking-programming/
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795

2. It is very unlikely they kiss their mothers. They never leave their basements, and their mothers are usually in their sixties or older, so they can&#039;t safely go down the steps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Most programmers swear. They complain about hardware, other software, or their fellow developers. This serves as a distraction so that other will be less likely to notice the mistakes they themselves make. It&#8217;s not exclusive to the Linux kernel, either:</p>
<p><a href="http://codeulate.com/2007/12/fcking-programming/" rel="nofollow">http://codeulate.com/2007/12/fcking-programming/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795" rel="nofollow">http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/2/15/71552/7795</a></p>
<p>2. It is very unlikely they kiss their mothers. They never leave their basements, and their mothers are usually in their sixties or older, so they can&#8217;t safely go down the steps.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do the Linux kernel developers use such naughty language? by Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.kernelbench.org/kernel-developer/why-do-the-linux-kernel-developers-use-such-naughty-language/comment-page-1#comment-3883</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they are sitting there typing code all day for free so they vent some anger in there work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they are sitting there typing code all day for free so they vent some anger in there work.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Urgent Linux (Puppy) Help: Can I just press power after a Kernel panic message? please read.? by Liars never lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liars never lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>help is help for the shell itself, this is quite confusing for people who comes from Windows. For help to programs use &quot;man command&quot; (man short for manual, &quot;man man&quot; for manual about using man)

to poweroff from a terminal, use the command &quot;poweroff&quot; (need to be root) or if you&#039;re in the console (terminal that is not inside GUI) press Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot

Kernel Panic is Linux&#039; equivalent of Blue Screen of Death (BSoD), if you happen to meet it, there is not much you can do but a hard reset. If the kernel is compiled with &quot;Magic SysRq&quot;, sometimes you can use the Alt+PrintScreen[2] REISUB to safely shutdown (the magic key will try unRaw keyboard, tErminate all process except init, kIll all process except init[1], Sync the harddisk, Unmount, reBoot). But as the name implies, &quot;Magic SysRq&quot; is really a magic hack originally intended for debugging the kernel itself...

If &quot;Magic SysRq&quot; fails, just press the power button. Chances are nothing would happen and life continues. In some cases when the USB&#039;s filesystem is messed up &quot;fsck&quot; might be able to fix it. In a very rare conditions, the filesystem is damaged irreparably. Worst case possible is your USB dead... though that only happens when the moon is full and red and the stars are exploding on a leap year and the brightest star matches your zodiac.

[1] in Linux, terminate-ing and kill-ing a processing is a different thing. Terminate allows the process to exit gracefully and do clean up operation, kill-ing will just kill it immediately. Technically, they send SIGTERM and SIGKILL signal respectively. Program can ignore the Terminate signal, but only init can ignore Kill
[2] in laptops, you may need to use Alt+Fn+Insert(PrintScreen) or something similar since PrintScreen might not be a major key in the reduced size keyboard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>help is help for the shell itself, this is quite confusing for people who comes from Windows. For help to programs use &quot;man command&quot; (man short for manual, &quot;man man&quot; for manual about using man)</p>
<p>to poweroff from a terminal, use the command &quot;poweroff&quot; (need to be root) or if you&#8217;re in the console (terminal that is not inside GUI) press Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot</p>
<p>Kernel Panic is Linux&#8217; equivalent of Blue Screen of Death (BSoD), if you happen to meet it, there is not much you can do but a hard reset. If the kernel is compiled with &quot;Magic SysRq&quot;, sometimes you can use the Alt+PrintScreen[2] REISUB to safely shutdown (the magic key will try unRaw keyboard, tErminate all process except init, kIll all process except init[1], Sync the harddisk, Unmount, reBoot). But as the name implies, &quot;Magic SysRq&quot; is really a magic hack originally intended for debugging the kernel itself&#8230;</p>
<p>If &quot;Magic SysRq&quot; fails, just press the power button. Chances are nothing would happen and life continues. In some cases when the USB&#8217;s filesystem is messed up &quot;fsck&quot; might be able to fix it. In a very rare conditions, the filesystem is damaged irreparably. Worst case possible is your USB dead&#8230; though that only happens when the moon is full and red and the stars are exploding on a leap year and the brightest star matches your zodiac.</p>
<p>[1] in Linux, terminate-ing and kill-ing a processing is a different thing. Terminate allows the process to exit gracefully and do clean up operation, kill-ing will just kill it immediately. Technically, they send SIGTERM and SIGKILL signal respectively. Program can ignore the Terminate signal, but only init can ignore Kill<br />
[2] in laptops, you may need to use Alt+Fn+Insert(PrintScreen) or something similar since PrintScreen might not be a major key in the reduced size keyboard.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Urgent Linux (Puppy) Help: Can I just press power after a Kernel panic message? please read.? by pacifcace</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacifcace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It won&#039;t do anything to your computer, it may damage the filesystem on your USB drive. Your best bet, however, is just powering it down (and for the love of god don&#039;t pull out the USB stick before you do that).

Linux is pretty resilient and its not the easiest thing in the world to kill, but that being said screwing around in the inner workings of it when you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing is a good way to kill your installation.

You really have no other options at this point, you can pull the USB drive (and very probably screw up the filesystem), force it to power down (and only maybe damage the USB stick&#039;s filesystem), or let it sit there forever (which isn&#039;t really an option, is it?).&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It won&#8217;t do anything to your computer, it may damage the filesystem on your USB drive. Your best bet, however, is just powering it down (and for the love of god don&#8217;t pull out the USB stick before you do that).</p>
<p>Linux is pretty resilient and its not the easiest thing in the world to kill, but that being said screwing around in the inner workings of it when you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing is a good way to kill your installation.</p>
<p>You really have no other options at this point, you can pull the USB drive (and very probably screw up the filesystem), force it to power down (and only maybe damage the USB stick&#8217;s filesystem), or let it sit there forever (which isn&#8217;t really an option, is it?).<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Urgent Linux (Puppy) Help: Can I just press power after a Kernel panic message? please read.? by piratesmack</title>
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		<dc:creator>piratesmack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 21:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this:
Hold the ALT+PrintScreen keys on your keyboard, and type:
REISUB (An easy way to remember this is it&#039;s &quot;Busier&quot; spelled backwards)

If that doesn&#039;t work, then just press the power button.
It shouldn&#039;t harm your computer since the hard drive probably isn&#039;t mounted or being written to.

There is a chance it can screw up files on your USB drive (Most likely the Puppy save file)


Also, to shut down your computer from the command line, do this:
shutdown -h now

Or to reboot:
shutdown -r now

These should also work:
poweroff
reboot&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this:<br />
Hold the ALT+PrintScreen keys on your keyboard, and type:<br />
REISUB (An easy way to remember this is it&#8217;s &quot;Busier&quot; spelled backwards)</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work, then just press the power button.<br />
It shouldn&#8217;t harm your computer since the hard drive probably isn&#8217;t mounted or being written to.</p>
<p>There is a chance it can screw up files on your USB drive (Most likely the Puppy save file)</p>
<p>Also, to shut down your computer from the command line, do this:<br />
shutdown -h now</p>
<p>Or to reboot:<br />
shutdown -r now</p>
<p>These should also work:<br />
poweroff<br />
reboot<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart" rel="nofollow">http://kember.net/articles/231/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Wine-Linux can i use? by jerry t</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give the Super OS a try. It is based on ubuntu with many addons already installed like Wine.
It is therefore larger than the &quot;normal&quot; ubuntu and must be burned to a dvd not a cd.
I would also suggest that you note the info that is presented during the install, and after install click on the blue question mark for help . 
Good luck&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the Super OS a try. It is based on ubuntu with many addons already installed like Wine.<br />
It is therefore larger than the &quot;normal&quot; ubuntu and must be burned to a dvd not a cd.<br />
I would also suggest that you note the info that is presented during the install, and after install click on the blue question mark for help .<br />
Good luck<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS" rel="nofollow">http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Which Wine-Linux can i use? by Beau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you have a distribution based on Slackware you should probably get the Slackware package. In general, I prefer to always get source tar files and compile software instead of getting a package. If the Slackware package fails, then download the .tar source file and follow its directions to get it running.

However, if you have such a reliance on Windows applications then why use Linux? If its just to learn Linux its easier to set up your computer so that you can boot to both windows and Linux. You must have patience with Linux to get it running how you want. At that point it&#039;s very enjoyable to use. There are so many distributions and ways to set up Linux that unless you find out what you like you probably wont enjoy it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you have a distribution based on Slackware you should probably get the Slackware package. In general, I prefer to always get source tar files and compile software instead of getting a package. If the Slackware package fails, then download the .tar source file and follow its directions to get it running.</p>
<p>However, if you have such a reliance on Windows applications then why use Linux? If its just to learn Linux its easier to set up your computer so that you can boot to both windows and Linux. You must have patience with Linux to get it running how you want. At that point it&#8217;s very enjoyable to use. There are so many distributions and ways to set up Linux that unless you find out what you like you probably wont enjoy it.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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